Last revised 25 April 2006 by Shahrukh Merchant
The Tango-L and Tango-A mailing lists have been hosted by MIT for over 10 years, using the Listserv software on the mitvma.mit.edu host. A couple of years ago, Information Services at MIT began a transition to the Mailman list management software, and now it is the turn of the Tango-L and Tango-A lists to make the transition.
If you were a member of the Tango-L or Tango-A list hosted on mitvma.mit.edu before about 26 April 2006, your subscription will be moved automatically to the new software, and the change will be mostly transparent to you. However, there are several things different about the new software and the user interface, which this page addresses.
Really, that's it. Everything else is done for you. If you had Topics set on your Tango-A subscription, those topic names and individual settings have already been moved over for you, as has your other settings such as Digest, Nomail, etc. There are some more subtle issues that may not affect your individual subscription but the list as a whole, so I have collected those issues as a FAQ (which also addresses some questions that people have asked about the transition). Read on if you are interested!
This is a very good question. Tango-L has been around for more than 10 years, when Internet mailing lists were still something of a novelty, and this very "seniority" makes it so useful (if it were being created now, on yahoogroups, for example, it would get lost in the sea of other speciality Tango lists). This means that there are innumerable links all over the Internet with instructions on how to subscribe to Tango-L and Tango-A and it is unrealistic to hope that all of these are going to be corrected in a few days (or at all). So many potential new subscribers could be lost.
This has been largely addressed in the following ways (but you can help--see below!):
|This web site was created under the domain Tango-L.com (Tango-A.com also points here). All web links for information about the Tango-L/-A lists can simply point here, and this is the only site that will need to be kept uptodate for any future such changes.|
|The obsolete Tango-Lemail@example.com and Tango-Afirstname.lastname@example.org addresses will be forwarded for some time to come to the new Tango-Lemail@example.com address so that at least misdirected administrative mail will reach the current administrators at the new address.|
|An old-format subscribe message to the obsolete firstname.lastname@example.org address will, unfortunately, generate only a "This list does not exist address." I am currently negotiating with the MIT Information Services staff to set it up a little differently, so that it gives a more detailed explanatory message saying that the list has moved and giving new instructions (perhaps just a pointer to this site). This is a short-term fix since this will disappear once the Listserv software is finally uninstalled, but at least it will catch the near-term misdirections.|
The real problem is all those web sites out there that have instructions for subscribing to Tango-L and Tango-A, and which are now obsolete. I did a Google search on +"tango-L" +"mitvma.mit.edu" (which should catch all references to the old subscription information for this list) and there are a reasonable number of 69 matches. If someone is willing to volunteer to contact all these website owners, followup methodically after a week, get them to change the information, etc., that will essentially solve the problem rapidly. Ultimately, I will do this myself, but after focussing on making the transition itself go smoothly, and with near-term travel plans, I cannot do this follow-up until much later than the optimal time (now) to do so.
If you are willing to help, please contact me first, just to make sure that these webmasters don't get mail-bombed with many people all trying to be helpful at the same time! Here is sample text to suggest they may use:
Tango-L and Tango-A are two worldwide Internet mailing lists for the Argentine Tango that anyone may subscribe to. Tango-L is for discussion about any aspect of Tango, and Tango-A is for announcements of major Tango events by region. Please go to www.Tango-L.com for details about these lists, how to subscribe, list policies, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Well, there is some good news here! The Tango-L and Tango-A lists are currently being archived by Lucy Lynch at http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/index.html and http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-A/index.html respectively. I expect that this will not change, since the archive feeds will continue automatically (though she may need to make some minor changes in the scripts).
In addition, however, the Mailman software also provides for automatic archiving of lists hosted by Mailman (although of course these Mailman archives will only start from May 2006 or so). It is always good to have redundancy of archives! See the Tango-L home page for information on accessing these archives.